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	<title>Comments on: &#8220;Engaging&#8221; POCs in AR Work?</title>
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		<title>By: Three Recent Links &#171; Vegans of Color</title>
		<link>http://vegansofcolor.wordpress.com/2008/06/12/engaging-pocs-in-ar-work/#comment-903</link>
		<dc:creator>Three Recent Links &#171; Vegans of Color</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Aug 2008 17:22:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] note that in the comments of my post here questioning the conference, it was suggested that bringing in race issues to AR spaces would be [...]</description>
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		<title>By: johanna</title>
		<link>http://vegansofcolor.wordpress.com/2008/06/12/engaging-pocs-in-ar-work/#comment-804</link>
		<dc:creator>johanna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 17:44:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>pattrice -- I would love to hear more about your experiences w/this if you&#039;d like to post about it on your blog!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>pattrice &#8212; I would love to hear more about your experiences w/this if you&#8217;d like to post about it on your blog!</p>
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		<title>By: SuperWeed</title>
		<link>http://vegansofcolor.wordpress.com/2008/06/12/engaging-pocs-in-ar-work/#comment-780</link>
		<dc:creator>SuperWeed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 18:50:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, this is pattrice jones. Loving this discussion and wondering if some insider information, from someone who has both been banned (yes, banned) from that conference and has had some success in moving it a little bit in the right direction might be useful?

I don&#039;t want to go on and on taking up space here in this comments thread but I would be happy to share my own experiences trying to make interventions in past years, speaking at or sitting in on some of the problematically named panels this year, interacting with the conference organizers at the behest of the people of color caucus this year and last year, or anything else that might be at all useful. I could share information privately or take up space on my own blog if folks are interested.

Also, I have to cop to responsibility for &quot;engaging,&quot; which I suggested as an alternative to the much more problematic &quot;outreach&quot; -- although what I wanted them to say was &quot;engaging the feminist movement,&quot; &quot;engaging anti-racist activists,&quot; etc -- with the idea of social change movements engaging each other in a process of *mutual* change rather than one movement standing unchanged and &quot;reaching out&quot; to the unenlightened (pun intended) masses.

And, no, I have no idea how many times I and others have to stand up and say &quot;people of color are the majority of the world&#039;s population and soon will be the majority in the United States too&quot; before they will quit saying &quot;minority.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, this is pattrice jones. Loving this discussion and wondering if some insider information, from someone who has both been banned (yes, banned) from that conference and has had some success in moving it a little bit in the right direction might be useful?</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t want to go on and on taking up space here in this comments thread but I would be happy to share my own experiences trying to make interventions in past years, speaking at or sitting in on some of the problematically named panels this year, interacting with the conference organizers at the behest of the people of color caucus this year and last year, or anything else that might be at all useful. I could share information privately or take up space on my own blog if folks are interested.</p>
<p>Also, I have to cop to responsibility for &#8220;engaging,&#8221; which I suggested as an alternative to the much more problematic &#8220;outreach&#8221; &#8212; although what I wanted them to say was &#8220;engaging the feminist movement,&#8221; &#8220;engaging anti-racist activists,&#8221; etc &#8212; with the idea of social change movements engaging each other in a process of *mutual* change rather than one movement standing unchanged and &#8220;reaching out&#8221; to the unenlightened (pun intended) masses.</p>
<p>And, no, I have no idea how many times I and others have to stand up and say &#8220;people of color are the majority of the world&#8217;s population and soon will be the majority in the United States too&#8221; before they will quit saying &#8220;minority.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: johanna</title>
		<link>http://vegansofcolor.wordpress.com/2008/06/12/engaging-pocs-in-ar-work/#comment-474</link>
		<dc:creator>johanna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jun 2008 17:36:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey all -- yeah, I need to e-mail the organizers about this... I am a bit apprehensive about doing so, because in general my experience in bringing things like this up to folks has not been positive. However, I&#039;ll probably also send them the link to this post, so if nothing else they can see that it&#039;s not just me upset about this.

Gary -- aw, thanks! If I do end up going to the conference (who knows), maybe we will see each other.

Chad -- thanks for the comment. I get that conference panel slots are always, always going to be too short for a discussion, but... OTOH, if nothing else, a non-diverse movement will never change things, simply because it won&#039;t have the mass backing that it needs. So, yeah, I get that AR conferences focus on animal-related topics, but considering how all these oppressions are linked anyway, I think it&#039;s more than relevant. 

serenityinseoul -- I&#039;m glad you found us! I&#039;ll e-mail you about joining the blog, if you&#039;re interested.

Tamara &amp; Noemi -- yeah, I&#039;m w/you on the linked oppressions thing, heh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey all &#8212; yeah, I need to e-mail the organizers about this&#8230; I am a bit apprehensive about doing so, because in general my experience in bringing things like this up to folks has not been positive. However, I&#8217;ll probably also send them the link to this post, so if nothing else they can see that it&#8217;s not just me upset about this.</p>
<p>Gary &#8212; aw, thanks! If I do end up going to the conference (who knows), maybe we will see each other.</p>
<p>Chad &#8212; thanks for the comment. I get that conference panel slots are always, always going to be too short for a discussion, but&#8230; OTOH, if nothing else, a non-diverse movement will never change things, simply because it won&#8217;t have the mass backing that it needs. So, yeah, I get that AR conferences focus on animal-related topics, but considering how all these oppressions are linked anyway, I think it&#8217;s more than relevant. </p>
<p>serenityinseoul &#8212; I&#8217;m glad you found us! I&#8217;ll e-mail you about joining the blog, if you&#8217;re interested.</p>
<p>Tamara &amp; Noemi &#8212; yeah, I&#8217;m w/you on the linked oppressions thing, heh.</p>
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		<title>By: noemi</title>
		<link>http://vegansofcolor.wordpress.com/2008/06/12/engaging-pocs-in-ar-work/#comment-470</link>
		<dc:creator>noemi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jun 2008 22:02:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>as a teacher, bdsista-you are in a great position to impart w/ your students animal rights and value of animal rights-I would love if the teachers of my children showed any interest in humane treatment of animals. Why? because I  believe this leads to being compassionate all around, whether it to with animals or humans. I also don&#039;t understand the life expectancy comment. Okay, I did the math. What&#039;s your point?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>as a teacher, bdsista-you are in a great position to impart w/ your students animal rights and value of animal rights-I would love if the teachers of my children showed any interest in humane treatment of animals. Why? because I  believe this leads to being compassionate all around, whether it to with animals or humans. I also don&#8217;t understand the life expectancy comment. Okay, I did the math. What&#8217;s your point?</p>
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		<title>By: Tamara</title>
		<link>http://vegansofcolor.wordpress.com/2008/06/12/engaging-pocs-in-ar-work/#comment-469</link>
		<dc:creator>Tamara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jun 2008 18:54:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>bdsista, I admire your passion for children and agree that the problems you describe are indeed compelling and deserving of attention. The main problem I see with your argument is that you have split the two issues into an either/or mindset. In fact, we should all be working to end ALL kinds of oppression. Of course, I realize that each individual&#039;s time is limited as far as volunteering, activism, etc. But it truly doesn&#039;t take any more effort or time to do the single most important thing possible to end animal oppression - GO VEGAN. You can continue to be an effective advocate for children (and in my opinion, a better one, since as many have already stated, these issues are all interconnected), but you will simultaneously be extending your web of compassion (which you obviously posses!) to all living beings. Veganism is a daily, hourly, minute-by-minute personal protest against injustice that you can implement by the simple fact of what you choose to put in your mouth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>bdsista, I admire your passion for children and agree that the problems you describe are indeed compelling and deserving of attention. The main problem I see with your argument is that you have split the two issues into an either/or mindset. In fact, we should all be working to end ALL kinds of oppression. Of course, I realize that each individual&#8217;s time is limited as far as volunteering, activism, etc. But it truly doesn&#8217;t take any more effort or time to do the single most important thing possible to end animal oppression &#8211; GO VEGAN. You can continue to be an effective advocate for children (and in my opinion, a better one, since as many have already stated, these issues are all interconnected), but you will simultaneously be extending your web of compassion (which you obviously posses!) to all living beings. Veganism is a daily, hourly, minute-by-minute personal protest against injustice that you can implement by the simple fact of what you choose to put in your mouth.</p>
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		<title>By: serenityinseoul</title>
		<link>http://vegansofcolor.wordpress.com/2008/06/12/engaging-pocs-in-ar-work/#comment-468</link>
		<dc:creator>serenityinseoul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2008 16:13:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>New to the blog, found it thanks to VegNews.  I&#039;m a Korean born woman raised in the USA since infancy by means of adoption and became a vegan in 2003.  I SO look forward to reading this blog more often and maybe even contributing if possible.  I&#039;m happy to know there are vegans of color out there speaking out!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>New to the blog, found it thanks to VegNews.  I&#8217;m a Korean born woman raised in the USA since infancy by means of adoption and became a vegan in 2003.  I SO look forward to reading this blog more often and maybe even contributing if possible.  I&#8217;m happy to know there are vegans of color out there speaking out!</p>
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		<title>By: Chad Miller</title>
		<link>http://vegansofcolor.wordpress.com/2008/06/12/engaging-pocs-in-ar-work/#comment-465</link>
		<dc:creator>Chad Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 02:43:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just realized I didn&#039;t include contact info, sorry.

Chad Miller: letlive@foodfightgrocery.com
and www.letliveconference.org

thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just realized I didn&#8217;t include contact info, sorry.</p>
<p>Chad Miller: <a href="mailto:letlive@foodfightgrocery.com">letlive@foodfightgrocery.com</a><br />
and <a href="http://www.letliveconference.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.letliveconference.org</a></p>
<p>thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Chad Miller</title>
		<link>http://vegansofcolor.wordpress.com/2008/06/12/engaging-pocs-in-ar-work/#comment-464</link>
		<dc:creator>Chad Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 02:35:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi there. Good discussion, great site. We&#039;re just organizing our first conference here in Portland, it&#039;s taking place next week June 27-29th). We&#039;re also including a couple of workshop/talk things regarding bridging movements/social justice causes. 

Not sure if they&#039;ll be better/worse than the national AR conference, but we&#039;re trying our best. It&#039;s a tough issue to effectively tackle in a couple of talks, it&#039;s something that warrants an entire conference itself, really. I&#039;d hope people can cut organizers some slack and realize most folks are doing their best with limited time and working around a conference that is basically trying to focus on non-human issues, not all of the problems of our society.

If anybody would be interested in working on something for next years Let Live NW AR Conference, we&#039;d love to hear from you and be able to include something more focused on race and economic status. 

Don&#039;t hesitate to get in touch, really, we&#039;d love to have something like this next year.

xoxo
Chad / Let Live</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi there. Good discussion, great site. We&#8217;re just organizing our first conference here in Portland, it&#8217;s taking place next week June 27-29th). We&#8217;re also including a couple of workshop/talk things regarding bridging movements/social justice causes. </p>
<p>Not sure if they&#8217;ll be better/worse than the national AR conference, but we&#8217;re trying our best. It&#8217;s a tough issue to effectively tackle in a couple of talks, it&#8217;s something that warrants an entire conference itself, really. I&#8217;d hope people can cut organizers some slack and realize most folks are doing their best with limited time and working around a conference that is basically trying to focus on non-human issues, not all of the problems of our society.</p>
<p>If anybody would be interested in working on something for next years Let Live NW AR Conference, we&#8217;d love to hear from you and be able to include something more focused on race and economic status. </p>
<p>Don&#8217;t hesitate to get in touch, really, we&#8217;d love to have something like this next year.</p>
<p>xoxo<br />
Chad / Let Live</p>
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		<title>By: Gary</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 02:32:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oops, spelled your name wrong - twice. Sorry.</description>
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