Comments on: survival foods

By: johanna

johanna — Sat, 11 Jul 2009 20:12:08 +0000

I’m going to freeze comments on this post for now, as the conversation does not seem to be productive at all & has become really fucking heinous. Mama, if you’d like me to open comments again, please let me know. Thanks.

By: johanna

johanna — Sat, 11 Jul 2009 20:11:24 +0000

Alicia, I can’t even believe how offensive this statement is. What the fuck?

By: Alicia

Alicia — Thu, 09 Jul 2009 05:25:13 +0000

J.R. I have learned from this blog that this statement is a thousand percent true. As long as you’re pregnant you can hide behind anything because your pregnant and no one is supposed to challenge the decision’s of a pregnant woman if you do you are seen as cold, mean, ignorant or in my case you can even be labeled as a white supremacist for doing do, even if you’re black.

By: Alicia

Alicia — Thu, 09 Jul 2009 05:19:17 +0000

Lupe how dare you! If you actually paid attention you would see that my name is on this blog as one of it’s contributing writers. And I am indeed a woman of color and a proud woman of color at that. How dare you assume anyone is white, black, asian, mexican, etc. just by their responses to a question or statement? It is truly telling of a deep seeded racism within yourself that you would make such broad base erroneous statements that show just how ignorant you truly are.

It is clear that you are just a “browser” and not someone who actually reads this blog, posts, or responses. If you did then you would have easily gathered by now that I am not only a woman of color but someone who is also struggling financially right now, living off of food stamps to eat and making my way through grad school like many of the other contributers on this blog.

How dare you compare me to a white supremacist! Who the fuck are you? You don’t know me. You don’t know shit about me. It is rare that I get this pissed off in a public forum but frankly…FUCK YOU!

And correction…anthropologist have not been some of the most racist people in history. Assholes like you are the one’s who are create the problems in this world. The work of early anthropologist has been misused, mishandled and misquoted over the years but i will not sit here and allow you to paint a false picture of what and who anthropologist truly are. And yes, there are black anthropologist. Were you aware that Margaret Mead and Zora Neal Hurston were some of the first Anthropologist. Research a little before you speak next time. Maybe next time you won’t sound like such a ignorant asshole.

By: adam

adam — Tue, 07 Jul 2009 23:10:24 +0000

What difference does it make if someone were to infer your race and class? If you actually believe you made a good point, then it wouldn’t matter what other people think. If you don’t think you’re making a valid point, then don’t post it. I can only speak for myself, but I assign a lot less legitimacy to defensive anonymous posts.

BUT, I’m sure I’m not alone in finding your continual judgemental, *anonymous* postings here on VOC pretty disgraceful and cowardly. This is such a unique space and it shameful that “a semi-frequent reader” would deprecate the integrity of this blog. Vegans of all races have responded to your message, and most of us here, not surpirsingly, disagree. The only conversation you’ve been contributing to since #35 is how big of a tool you can become.

By: Joselle

Joselle — Tue, 07 Jul 2009 19:43:45 +0000

To all anonymous people, 1 or 2 or whatever: What are you talking about? No one is inferring anything by name. And one of the VoC bloggers, Alicia, was one of the first people to criticize another VoC blogger, Mama. So, yeah. We know how to read and who is who. Also, there is something called an IP address and I can see that comments from Anon and Anon 2 are coming from the same one.

Since this is all I am adding at this point, I think I’ll leave it at that and stop reading these comments. I don’t have anything to add to this post and the discussion has really devolved. And I think that’s a real shame because this is an important topic. But hey, that’s the internet for ya.

By: johanna

johanna — Tue, 07 Jul 2009 16:39:09 +0000

Anonymous2: please go do some reading on racism & white privilege & hopefully you will understand comments like Lupe’s. This blog is NOT the place to educate people about racism 101; I am not interested in having that discussion here, it’s a derail & there are loads of other resources out there for this purpose.

By: Anonymous2

Anonymous2 — Tue, 07 Jul 2009 16:30:17 +0000

Ok Im not Anonymous, Im a diff person. I feel the reason why people should not need to use their real name is because the board is so heated sometimes, that people should NOT try to infer race, class etc from the name. As it stands some people in this discussion are making assumptions and comments based on name, not the message.

By: Anonymous2

Anonymous2 — Tue, 07 Jul 2009 16:23:21 +0000

When you say “White people should STFU, all the bitching and complaining” Honestly, that sounds racist to me. BTW some of the people who are commenting on the original post are NOT WHITE. Read the posts, click on the author and learn about them and their previous posts.

By: Joselle

Joselle — Tue, 07 Jul 2009 16:02:04 +0000

Your comments have been posted. How exactly are your anonymous views not being represented?

When you have the guts to use your name and, as the playground saying goes, say it to my face, your claims of racism might hold a bit more water with me. That I won’t tolerate. Calling anyone here a racist is grounds for me and the other bloggers to REALLY stop posting your inflammatory and untrue comments.

I’ll say it one more time and for the last time. Every one of these bloggers speaks for themselves. And every one of them is vegan. The world is a messier place than you’d like to imagine, ANON. Deal. And stop trying to control this conversation, ANONYMOUS. Comments are moderated and we’ve never hidden that fact. But you’ve definitely more than had your say.